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Liège, CAF Urbos 100 # 5101 (1); Liège, CAF Urbos 100 # 5114; Liège — Tramway Line and Infrastructure Construction
  Liège CAF Urbos 100 # 5101 (1) 
 CAF Urbos 100 # 5114 
Tramway Line and Infrastructure Construction
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Author: Ymtram · East Haven - Branford           Date: Sunday, May 26, 2024

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Published 04.06.2024 01:47 UTC
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Liège, CAF Urbos 100 # 5101

Operator/Facility:T.E.C.
Second Number:1
Since...:2023
Model:CAF Urbos 100
Built:2021
Current state:Not cleared for revenue service
Purpose:Passenger vehicle

Liège, CAF Urbos 100 # 5114

Operator/Facility:T.E.C.
Model:CAF Urbos 100
Built:2021
Current state:Not cleared for revenue service
Purpose:Passenger vehicle

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Model:Canon PowerShot SX50 HS
Artist Name:ymtram
Date and Time:26.05.2024 18:13
Exposure Time:1/200 sec
Aperture Value:5.6
ISO Speed:800
Exposure Bias:–1/3 EV
Focal Length:38.741 mm
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04.06.2024 09:23 UTC
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Ymtram · East Haven - Branford
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The fleet number of the tram on the left is clearly 1.
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Парковый номер вагона слева четко виден как номер 1.
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04.06.2024 20:08 UTC
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focus1965 · Antwerpen
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Quote (Ymtram, 04.06.2024):
> The fleet number of the tram on the left is clearly 1.

And wrong. 3 numbers are missing, or stolen, or whatever...
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04.06.2024 23:13 UTC
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Ymtram · East Haven - Branford
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Цитата (focus1965, 04.06.2024):
> 3 numbers are missing, or stolen, or whatever...

I agree that the number 1 is probably wrong, and there is another official fleet number exists. However, I felt such numbering might had been preserved intentionally for marketing / promotional consideration, e.g. to emphasize this is 'the first tram ever' etc. It would be curios to see if the number '1' will be retained for the opening ceremonies.

> 3 номера отвалились, или украдены, или что там еще...

Согласен, что цифра 1, вероятно, неправильная, и существует другой официальный номер вагона. Однако, я подозреваю, что такой номер мог быть присвоен намеренно для маркетинговых / рекламных соображений, например, чтобы подчеркнуть, что это именно "первый трамвай сети" и т.п. Было бы интересно посмотреть, сохранится ли номер "1" к церемонии открытия сети.
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08.06.2024 15:30 UTC
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focus1965 · Antwerpen
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Quote (Ymtram, 05.06.2024):
> I agree that the number 1 is probably wrong, and there is another official fleet number exists. However, I felt such numbering might had been preserved intentionally for marketing / promotional consideration, e.g. to emphasize this is 'the first tram ever' etc. It would be curios to see if the number '1' will be retained for the opening ceremonies.

The tram was delivered with the complete number.
You can check all the press releases (letram.be): no mention about the first tram (as 1). Let's see if this tram will run on tests or by the opening with this number. BTW: I don't think you could see every side (incl. inside) of this tram.
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22.06.2024 14:40 UTC
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focus1965 · Antwerpen
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I found in a magazine a photo of this tram (on a test run) with remark "1 aka 5101". I merge both profiles.
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22.06.2024 15:56 UTC
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Ymtram · East Haven - Branford
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Цитата (focus1965, 22.06.2024):
> "1 aka 5101"

This was exactly my suspicion, especially since 5101 is the very first number in the fleet (but curiously not the first tram that was delivered). Let's see if the number '1' will be used for presentation purposes through the opening ceremonies.

What is known about 5102-5106? The fleet roster is incomplete.
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22.06.2024 19:26 UTC
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focus1965 · Antwerpen
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Quote (Ymtram, 22.06.2024):
> What is known about 5102-5106? The fleet roster is incomplete.

The problem in Liège is exactly the same as in Antwerp. Not coincidentally: the trams come from the same factory.
They are delivered randomly and therefore not in numerical order.
Moreover, in Antwerp, deliveries take place during the night.
In the beginning (with the first ones), there are still local enthusiasts who are present, but afterwards the interest gradually fades.
Official data doesn't exist, or is not shared, or simply kept secret.
For both Antwerp and Liège, one can reasonably assume that all, or most of the trams, have been delivered, but precisely this difference makes it impossible to keep the database correctly updated without guessing.
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