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Blackpool, Blackpool Pantograph Car č. 167; Blackpool — Old photos
  Blackpool Blackpool Pantograph Car č. 167 
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Fleetwood, Queen's Terrace
Original photo from my collection.
The date is not mentioned.
Author: F.E.J. Ward

Zaslal focus1965 · Antverpy           Datum: 1950 (přibližně)

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Blackpool, Blackpool Pantograph Car č. 167

Vozovna:Blackpool Corporation Tramways
Typ:Blackpool Pantograph Car
Vyroben:1928
Současný stav:Přečíslován/předán v rámci města (1954)
Účel provozu:Osobní
Odstaven:1953
Poznámka:1954 to work service; 1962 to Crich, 167; 05.1985 to Blackpool, 167; 11.1985 to Crich, 167; 06.1998 to Blackpool, 167; 07.1998 to Crich, 167; 01.09.2010 to Blackpool, 167; 30.09.2010 to Crich, 167; 01.2014 to Beamish, 167; 04.2014 to Blackpool, 167; 08.2014 to Crich, 167
Seats: 48 (+2)
preserved

Nastavení kamery

Model:Canon TS5100 series
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Komentáře · 6

02.12.2023 15:09 UTC
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Довольно эпичная конструкция токоприёмника)
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02.12.2023 17:30 UTC
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Dmitry Ignaïev · Petrohrad
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Модель не та. Это Blackpool Pantograph Car. У него подставка для токоприёмника не такая, как у других вагонов. Изначально на ней стоял маленький пантограф: https://www.tramway.co.uk/trams/blackpoo...no-167/
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02.12.2023 20:00 UTC
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focus1965 · Antverpy
Fotografií: 8510 · Zástupce administrátora / Překlad webu (EN/FR)
I'll answer this as Local and General Editor.

As Local Editor. You can clearly read in the link that this tram was built by General Electric.

Now my answer as General Editor. I recently visited Kayseri with this particular line-up: https://transphoto.org/photo/1823501/
I was very curious about the type designation of the Bozankaya trams.
I visited every corner in the tram (including the steps and cabin) but found nothing, although there are plenty of signs: official approval, window compliance, electricity inspection... but nothing from the manufacturer itself.
The factory was later visited and after the official presentation, the question was asked: "what is the official name of the tramtypes"?
The answer was ... we don't have it and this was confirmed in Kayseri: they also didn't know. In the factory, we then asked how the distinction was made between the different types and then the answer came "the model year". It's on this basis that I've made the necessary adjustments as General Editor, although this is unofficial rather than official, as officially there is no distinction.
By the way, you have the same thing almost everywhere, see also CAF: the CAF Urbos 100 tram exists in infinite variants but carries the same designation everywhere.

It's then that I came to the conclusion (but not only me, also a very well-known international tram enthusiast who is also active here) that we have actually been relying for years on a Russian practice that is far from always or even never applied elsewhere: the nomenclature of tram types.
Of course: it's practical and I too have been familiar with it for years, also because this was also applied to Gotha and Tatra: these are vehicles I have also often photographed.

If you start looking at all trams in the world - and there are many more outside Russia than in Russia, and especially if we start looking at the historical aspect - you will find that there are few real designations for tram types.

A nice one to finish: the P.C.C.'s. These too were built in endless variants, in America and Europe and this by different manufacturers, but on the order form it really didn't say more than P.C.C.

I hope this helps you understand that type names are just not self-evident, because they were and are far from being applied everywhere.
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02.12.2023 23:46 UTC
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Dmitry Ignaïev · Petrohrad
Fotografií: 2
Всё так, вот только модель "Blackpool Pantograph Car" уже есть в базе данных, так что не вижу смысла использовать общее наименование вагона, когда уже есть более конкретное, исторически использовавшееся.
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03.12.2023 04:22 UTC
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Цитата (Андрей Татрин, 02.12.2023):
> Довольно эпичная конструкция токоприёмника)

это потому что там ходят в том числе двухэтажные вагоны и КС высоко
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03.12.2023 09:04 UTC
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Dmitry Ignaïev · Petrohrad
Fotografií: 2
Цитата (Лев Мощевитин, 03.12.2023):
> потому что в том числе двухэтажные вагоны и КС высоко

В таком случае в некоторых трамвайных системах просто штанги подлиннее использовали. Это именно местная особенность
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